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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:23 pm 

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Reproductive Health vs. Moralists
This is a wrong header for a thread..
It should have been Reproductive Health of Congress vs. Reproductive health of Moralists..
Because it seems moralists doesn't want healthy reproduction..

Reproductive Health Bill in the Philippines? Wow!
How many health bills have been passed into law that have been executed?
I never heard such a thing.

Why advocate for artificial contraceptives and abortifacients?
Can it be possible international private business firms are behind this bill?
Does congress want lots and lots of money? Is it possible that there is money for congress in this bill?

Has there been a bill passed in congress that states to cancel all pork barrel?
Would congress be happy to cancel the pork barrel and let this be for the people?
Is pork barrel money? Isn't pork barrel peoples tax?
Can't that money be used for the good of the people and not for the interest of the person sitting in congress?
Does congress really care the health of the people or the health of their pockets?

Just ask yourselves which reproductive health is good for the people? from congress of from the Church?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:49 pm 

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Sang-ayon ako sa pagsulong ng reproductive health bill. Nararapat lamang siguro ito upang maibsan man lamang ang kahirapang dulot ng malaking pamilya. Isa rin itong malaking hakbang upang ipakita ng gobyerno na hiwalaya ng estado sa simbahan.


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I support the reproductive health bill. People should vote for the president who will have the courage to go against what the catholic church is saying. Those who think it's ok to be over-populated let them adopt all the street kids and jobless people.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:18 pm 

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Sa 90 Milyong Filipino at 90% din ay mahihirap hindi naman tamang sabihin na magpakarami pa tayo. Saka na magparami kapag ang tiyan ni Juan dela Cruz ay may masustansyang laman at nakakapag-isip ng maayos. Lalo lang kasi tayo nabaon sa kahirapan dahil sa sugal na pagpaparami ng anak sa pag-asang isa sa kanila ay mag-aahon sa pamilya sa hirap.

Ang pag-aanak at pagpapamilya ay hindi sugal na pwedeng ayawan pagkagusto mo ng huminto. Kailangang ito ay pinag-iisipan at pinapahalagahan. Hindi magiging super power ang isang bansang powerless, hungry, corrupt, at walang sense of moral responsibility.

Reproductive health is responsible parenting.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:36 pm 

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Ang Filipino ay kakaunti, sige mag-anak lang kayo at ang kailangan lang ay management, equal distribution of wealth. Kailangan natin dumami ang Filipino para kumalat sda buong mundo. Baka dumating ang araw na ang mga namumuno ng mga superpwer country ay Filipino.

Pabor din yan sa mga reliheyon dahil dadami ang magbigay ng 10%.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:33 pm 

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Mga kababayan kong tunay na naghahangad ng masigla at malusog na mamamayan sa bansang Pilipinas, di ba ang mas may moral yata ay ang mga taong nagpaplano ng pamilya at hindi yung anak na lang anak tapos iaasa sa Diyos ang lahat ng gagastusin ng bata sa kanyang paglaki?

Sang-ayon po ako sa reproductive health at bakit naman ang hindi e inaayos nga nito ang ating pamumuhay. Ok lang naman na maraming Pilipino kung magkakaroon lang ng mga magulang na kumakain din ng tama at hindi yung nakakapagbigay ng maayos na pamumuhay sa kanilang supling.

Yung paggamit ng condom at iba pang contraceptives ay dapat ng iwan ng mga lalaking banal sa mga lalaking di kayang mgpakabanal ng gaya nila. Karapatan ng bawat isa na magdesisyon para sa kanyang sarili. Kung papakialaman ito ng mga taong simbahan dapat ipagbawal na rin nila ang paninigarilyo at pagbebenta nito sapagkat nakakasira ito sa katawan ng kanilang miyembro. Pakialaman na rin nila lahat dahil mga moralista pala sila e pero parang hindi.

Humayo kayo at magpakarami pero yun pala e kina Eba't Adan lang sinabi kasi dadalawa pa lang sila sa mundo. Salamat po!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:43 am 

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nagtataka lang ako diba ang topic e reproductive health vs. moralists bakit napunta kay noynoy at mar? btw, ano ba stand nila dito? i'm sure they will not go against the catholic church pero ano ang gagawin nila sa issue ng overpopulation?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:52 pm 

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1. Friend, bears or bulls will not be a problem to me. Up or down, our economy will not matter much kasi I have been lucky enough to position myself against any eventualities. Add the fact na hindi naman ako pihikan and it makes no difference if I happen to eat shrimp cocktail in Fisherman's wharf in San Francisco, down beers in Chicago blues bars, eat pasta in Milan o kumain ng isaw and kwekwek jan sa cubao. Wala po akong arte sa katawan kaya sigurado po ako na I'll be able to survive kahit sino po maging President. Kaso yung majority po ng mga kababayan natin are not as lucky as I am. I am here because of them.

2. I am voting for NOYNOY and MAR because they are DECENT human beings and would be like a whiff of fresh air to the agonizing corruption laden years we had to put up with that gave us scandals like jose pidal, hello garci, mansion sa america, million peso dinner, fertilizer scam, legacy banks etc. Im sure they are DECENT kasi kung tayo mapupunta sa pwesto ni NOYNOY and MAR at kung gusto nating maging corrupt eh alam nating madali lang kasi they have the name and opportunity kaso mas ginusto nila na pahalagahan yung pangalan na minana nila (AQUINO and ROXAS) and they were totally accountable for their actions. Ang galing ng pagpapalaki sa kanila.

3. I am voting for NOYNOY and MAR not because the other candidates in the opposition are not worthy. Im voting for them kasi sila yung pwedeng tumalo sa administration bets. Sila chiz, fr. panlilio, riza hontiveros, darlene custodio, liza masa, trillanes, grace padaca, jesse robredo, danilo lim, satur ocampo, eddie villanueva are also worthy but problem is hindi pa nila kaya to take on the adminstration bets. However, they'll be worthy allies of NOYNOY and MAR should they seek senate or house of rep. seats.



sirfrancis_ac@yahoo.com wrote:
WHY NOYNOY and MAR??? Can you please elaborate why should we vote for them in 2010?


jaredbenedicto@rocketmail.com wrote:
romaregi@yahoo.com wrote:
Here is another brewing dilemma, Archbishop Ricardo Cardinal Vidal, categorically declared that he Catholic Church must not support candidates who are in favor of enacting the pending House Bill 5043, The Reproductive Health and Population Development Act of 2008".

In a country where there are about 76,140,000 professing Roman Catholics, this stand of the Roman Catholic Church against the passage of the bill will put the faithful in quandary, since most of the leading candidates for president are for the passage of the Bill.(Teodoro, Aquino,Villar)

The stand of the Cardinal is in strict compliance with the teaching of the RC church as contained in Humanae Vitae (1968), which teaches that married couples who want to control and space births should “take advantage of the natural cycles immanent in the reproductive system and engage in marital intercourse only during those times that are infertile” (no. 16).

The proponents of the RH bill 5043 sees it as their duty to regulate the growth of the population by educating couples in the options of family planning either natural as the church advocate or artificial by the use of Hormonal contraceptives, intrauterine devices, injectables and other allied reproductive health products and supplies.

Both parties allow for control and spacing of birth of children. The RC church though is firm in it’s objection of any artificial intervention, since the church foresee that this will diminish the burden of the married couples Christian responsibility in controlling their urges and passion and may promote sexual promiscuity, even outside the realm of the family institution. The other corollary reason is the objection of the RC to allow the use of Contraceptives (some with abortifacient effects), which results to technical Abortion, that is sanctioned by the RH bill.

I see no middle ground in this argument nor a chance of any compromise, because this is a question of church doctrine versus the expediency of civilian government.
It will be very interesting to observe how 76,140,000 professing Roman Catholics will finally stand in this issue.


Come to think of it friend, i find the fact that both government and the catholic church cannot find a common ground reassuring. The catholic church would not be doing its job kung papayag sila sa RH bill and the government would not be doing its job if they will not push for the RH bill considering na they are not only looking after the welfare of the catholics but the entire 97 million filipinos of different religions, beliefs and persuasions.

Since come "end of days" both the government and the church will not be there to represent you pag kausap mo na si San Pedro and tanungin ka bakit gusto mo pumasok sa langit para mapanood yung concert ni 2pac and Francis M then i think we should just leave both the government and church outside the polling precinct.

Come election day, let this exercise be just between us, our conscience and our GOD.

PS. Basta Noynoy and Mar po for 2010 :D


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:10 am 

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Ok lang kung pansarili nyang opinyon ang sinasabi nya, pero, kung hikayatin nya ang mga nasasakupan nya that is anothe cardinal sin. Ang Yan ang tinatawag ns Word for Sale.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:37 am 

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WHY NOYNOY and MAR??? Can you please elaborate why should we vote for them in 2010?


jaredbenedicto@rocketmail.com wrote:
romaregi@yahoo.com wrote:
Here is another brewing dilemma, Archbishop Ricardo Cardinal Vidal, categorically declared that he Catholic Church must not support candidates who are in favor of enacting the pending House Bill 5043, The Reproductive Health and Population Development Act of 2008".

In a country where there are about 76,140,000 professing Roman Catholics, this stand of the Roman Catholic Church against the passage of the bill will put the faithful in quandary, since most of the leading candidates for president are for the passage of the Bill.(Teodoro, Aquino,Villar)

The stand of the Cardinal is in strict compliance with the teaching of the RC church as contained in Humanae Vitae (1968), which teaches that married couples who want to control and space births should “take advantage of the natural cycles immanent in the reproductive system and engage in marital intercourse only during those times that are infertile” (no. 16).

The proponents of the RH bill 5043 sees it as their duty to regulate the growth of the population by educating couples in the options of family planning either natural as the church advocate or artificial by the use of Hormonal contraceptives, intrauterine devices, injectables and other allied reproductive health products and supplies.

Both parties allow for control and spacing of birth of children. The RC church though is firm in it’s objection of any artificial intervention, since the church foresee that this will diminish the burden of the married couples Christian responsibility in controlling their urges and passion and may promote sexual promiscuity, even outside the realm of the family institution. The other corollary reason is the objection of the RC to allow the use of Contraceptives (some with abortifacient effects), which results to technical Abortion, that is sanctioned by the RH bill.

I see no middle ground in this argument nor a chance of any compromise, because this is a question of church doctrine versus the expediency of civilian government.
It will be very interesting to observe how 76,140,000 professing Roman Catholics will finally stand in this issue.


Come to think of it friend, i find the fact that both government and the catholic church cannot find a common ground reassuring. The catholic church would not be doing its job kung papayag sila sa RH bill and the government would not be doing its job if they will not push for the RH bill considering na they are not only looking after the welfare of the catholics but the entire 97 million filipinos of different religions, beliefs and persuasions.

Since come "end of days" both the government and the church will not be there to represent you pag kausap mo na si San Pedro and tanungin ka bakit gusto mo pumasok sa langit para mapanood yung concert ni 2pac and Francis M then i think we should just leave both the government and church outside the polling precinct.

Come election day, let this exercise be just between us, our conscience and our GOD.

PS. Basta Noynoy and Mar po for 2010 :D


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:32 am 

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I agree that religion plays a big part of our culture, however, if this also plays an important role to our being poor, the we dont need that part of our culture.
The bottom line is, we should not be dictated by the Church on how to raise our family, let us do what we think is the right thing to do when it comes to family matters. After all, it is not the Church who give food, clothes, shelter and education to our children, it is us!

abra_kedeva@yahoo.com.ph wrote:
The best person to address over-population is the government but religion plays a big part in our culture.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:03 am 

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Sa tutuo lang, the church is thinking about economy kung kayat tutol sila sa Reproductive Health Bill. Unang una, sayang naman yung bayad sa binyag kung mababawasan ang mga batang bibinyagan. Pangalawa, mas maraming mahihirap ang pumapasok sa simbahan at nag aabuloy kumpara sa mayayaman. Kaya ayaw nila ng Reproductive Health Bill ay para tuluyang pang dumami ang mahihirap and in effect mas lalo pang dadami ang papasok sa simbahan at mag abuloy. That is the economic reality that the RC Church is concerned about.
Dapat di na nakikialam ang simbahan sa usaping pulitika. Diba sabi ni Hesus
Ibigay kay Ceasar ang para kay Ceasar at sa Diyos ang para sa Diyos!


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sa totoo lang, sawa na ko sa isyung ito. ang tagal na nito eh... kaya sang ayon sa suggestion na dapat lang may channel na makakaclarify ang mga isyung tulad nito.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:20 am 

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Gawing batas sa Pilipinas na ang isang lalaki ay dapat 2 anak lang. Sa ikalang anak dapat KAPUNIN na ang lalake. Ang lalabag putulan ng kaligayahan.

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Let the Filipino to grow, let them spread all over the world, and slowly conquer the world.



krazzerz@gmail.com wrote:
Put the bill in a referendum during May 2010 election and let the people speak. Candidates should make their stand on population control (in reference to RH Bill) and be it a part of their platforms. GDP growth cannot support the population growth and the earlier the Filipino people realize that the better the future will be.


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Let the Filipino to grow, let them spread all over the world, and slowly conquer the world.



krazzerz@gmail.com wrote:
Put the bill in a referendum during May 2010 election and let the people speak. Candidates should make their stand on population control (in reference to RH Bill) and be it a part of their platforms. GDP growth cannot support the population growth and the earlier the Filipino people realize that the better the future will be.


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Put the bill in a referendum during May 2010 election and let the people speak. Candidates should make their stand on population control (in reference to RH Bill) and be it a part of their platforms. GDP growth cannot support the population growth and the earlier the Filipino people realize that the better the future will be.


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romaregi@yahoo.com wrote:
Here is another brewing dilemma, Archbishop Ricardo Cardinal Vidal, categorically declared that he Catholic Church must not support candidates who are in favor of enacting the pending House Bill 5043, The Reproductive Health and Population Development Act of 2008".

In a country where there are about 76,140,000 professing Roman Catholics, this stand of the Roman Catholic Church against the passage of the bill will put the faithful in quandary, since most of the leading candidates for president are for the passage of the Bill.(Teodoro, Aquino,Villar)

The stand of the Cardinal is in strict compliance with the teaching of the RC church as contained in Humanae Vitae (1968), which teaches that married couples who want to control and space births should “take advantage of the natural cycles immanent in the reproductive system and engage in marital intercourse only during those times that are infertile” (no. 16).

The proponents of the RH bill 5043 sees it as their duty to regulate the growth of the population by educating couples in the options of family planning either natural as the church advocate or artificial by the use of Hormonal contraceptives, intrauterine devices, injectables and other allied reproductive health products and supplies.

Both parties allow for control and spacing of birth of children. The RC church though is firm in it’s objection of any artificial intervention, since the church foresee that this will diminish the burden of the married couples Christian responsibility in controlling their urges and passion and may promote sexual promiscuity, even outside the realm of the family institution. The other corollary reason is the objection of the RC to allow the use of Contraceptives (some with abortifacient effects), which results to technical Abortion, that is sanctioned by the RH bill.

I see no middle ground in this argument nor a chance of any compromise, because this is a question of church doctrine versus the expediency of civilian government.
It will be very interesting to observe how 76,140,000 professing Roman Catholics will finally stand in this issue.


Come to think of it friend, i find the fact that both government and the catholic church cannot find a common ground reassuring. The catholic church would not be doing its job kung papayag sila sa RH bill and the government would not be doing its job if they will not push for the RH bill considering na they are not only looking after the welfare of the catholics but the entire 97 million filipinos of different religions, beliefs and persuasions.

Since come "end of days" both the government and the church will not be there to represent you pag kausap mo na si San Pedro and tanungin ka bakit gusto mo pumasok sa langit para mapanood yung concert ni 2pac and Francis M then i think we should just leave both the government and church outside the polling precinct.

Come election day, let this exercise be just between us, our conscience and our GOD.

PS. Basta Noynoy and Mar po for 2010 :D


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Here is another brewing dilemma, Archbishop Ricardo Cardinal Vidal, categorically declared that he Catholic Church must not support candidates who are in favor of enacting the pending House Bill 5043, The Reproductive Health and Population Development Act of 2008".

In a country where there are about 76,140,000 professing Roman Catholics, this stand of the Roman Catholic Church against the passage of the bill will put the faithful in quandary, since most of the leading candidates for president are for the passage of the Bill.(Teodoro, Aquino,Villar)

The stand of the Cardinal is in strict compliance with the teaching of the RC church as contained in Humanae Vitae (1968), which teaches that married couples who want to control and space births should “take advantage of the natural cycles immanent in the reproductive system and engage in marital intercourse only during those times that are infertile” (no. 16).

The proponents of the RH bill 5043 sees it as their duty to regulate the growth of the population by educating couples in the options of family planning either natural as the church advocate or artificial by the use of Hormonal contraceptives, intrauterine devices, injectables and other allied reproductive health products and supplies.

Both parties allow for control and spacing of birth of children. The RC church though is firm in it’s objection of any artificial intervention, since the church foresee that this will diminish the burden of the married couples Christian responsibility in controlling their urges and passion and may promote sexual promiscuity, even outside the realm of the family institution. The other corollary reason is the objection of the RC to allow the use of Contraceptives (some with abortifacient effects), which results to technical Abortion, that is sanctioned by the RH bill.

I see no middle ground in this argument nor a chance of any compromise, because this is a question of church doctrine versus the expediency of civilian government.
It will be very interesting to observe how 76,140,000 professing Roman Catholics will finally stand in this issue.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:32 am 

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There is nothing that a "consensus building" mechanism can't achieve.

Try and find some common grounds and develop a working and doable plan from there. :)


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tutol cla s reproductive health pero sa sobrang laki ng populasyon umaangal din cla...
hay!naku walang mapaglagyan...


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isconio@gmail.com wrote:
Let's have those guys holds the statistics do the work.


Tama! what the sense nun profession nila kung di rin lang naman pakikinabangan. :idea:


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shannon_tesa@yahoo.com.ph wrote:
neiltimothy2008@yahoo.com wrote:
scaramanga66@gmail.com wrote:
My say on this is, alamin kung hanggang saan ba ang sakop ng bill. Pwede naman magusap eh ang problema kanya kanyang pa-presscon hindi sila magharap at magusap ng ma-educate ang parehong partido


Sana naman may TV Channel ang government kung saan dun nila ipapakita sa publiko ang mga issues na kanilang tinatalakay katulad ng Australia na may TV Channel ang Legislative Branch nila kung saan pinapakita sa lahat 24/7 ang mga nangyayari sa loob ng kanilang gobyerno...lahat ng issues tungkol sa bansa at sa gobyerno ay kanilang pinapakita...sana naman ganun ang gagawin ng Pilipinas nang sa ganun ay bumalik ang tiwala ng tao sa gobyerno at maliwanagan ang bawat panig...


Ou dapat magkaron din ng channel.. Makakatulong yun sa mga tao...


sang ayon din ako dyan. dahil para maintindihan ng mga tao ang mga issue at ano pinag gagawa ng gobyerno. d puro criticize lang tpos iba nakikisama kahit wala naman alam. :D


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neiltimothy2008@yahoo.com wrote:
scaramanga66@gmail.com wrote:
My say on this is, alamin kung hanggang saan ba ang sakop ng bill. Pwede naman magusap eh ang problema kanya kanyang pa-presscon hindi sila magharap at magusap ng ma-educate ang parehong partido


Sana naman may TV Channel ang government kung saan dun nila ipapakita sa publiko ang mga issues na kanilang tinatalakay katulad ng Australia na may TV Channel ang Legislative Branch nila kung saan pinapakita sa lahat 24/7 ang mga nangyayari sa loob ng kanilang gobyerno...lahat ng issues tungkol sa bansa at sa gobyerno ay kanilang pinapakita...sana naman ganun ang gagawin ng Pilipinas nang sa ganun ay bumalik ang tiwala ng tao sa gobyerno at maliwanagan ang bawat panig...


Ou dapat magkaron din ng channel.. Makakatulong yun sa mga tao...


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scaramanga66@gmail.com wrote:
My say on this is, alamin kung hanggang saan ba ang sakop ng bill. Pwede naman magusap eh ang problema kanya kanyang pa-presscon hindi sila magharap at magusap ng ma-educate ang parehong partido


Sana naman may TV Channel ang government kung saan dun nila ipapakita sa publiko ang mga issues na kanilang tinatalakay katulad ng Australia na may TV Channel ang Legislative Branch nila kung saan pinapakita sa lahat 24/7 ang mga nangyayari sa loob ng kanilang gobyerno...lahat ng issues tungkol sa bansa at sa gobyerno ay kanilang pinapakita...sana naman ganun ang gagawin ng Pilipinas nang sa ganun ay bumalik ang tiwala ng tao sa gobyerno at maliwanagan ang bawat panig...


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My say on this is, alamin kung hanggang saan ba ang sakop ng bill. Pwede naman magusap eh ang problema kanya kanyang pa-presscon hindi sila magharap at magusap ng ma-educate ang parehong partido


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:01 pm 

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disinio wrote:
kayaa lang naman nakiki alam ang simbahan sa politica kasi nakikita ng simbahan
na nasa maling hakbang na ang mga leaders natin,meron talaga usapin na dapat ng manghimasok ang simbahan gawa ng need naman nating mabigyang gabay, ng sila namang nasa kapangyarihan ay maka pag muni-muni sa tamang pamamahala.


Panung maling hakbang? cge nga give me an example? Like what? Kung may point ang simbahan may point din ang pamahalaan. Kaya hindi tau umaasenso kasi maraming kontra eh. What if magparaya muna ang isa then tignan if it is successful saka sila kumontra db?


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kayaa lang naman nakiki alam ang simbahan sa politica kasi nakikita ng simbahan
na nasa maling hakbang na ang mga leaders natin,meron talaga usapin na dapat ng manghimasok ang simbahan gawa ng need naman nating mabigyang gabay, ng sila namang nasa kapangyarihan ay maka pag muni-muni sa tamang pamamahala.


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 Post subject: Re: Reproductive Health vs. Moralists
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:39 pm 

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Un ang hirap eh.. nagpapadikta tau sa simbahan. Kung tutuusin wala nang kwenta ang presidente kasi nadidiktahan sya ng simbahan. Im a catholic but I also consider reality.


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 Post subject: Re: Reproductive Health vs. Moralists
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:44 pm 

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Alam niyo naman yung mga utak ng mga MORALISTS DAW...lahat ng modernong pamamaraan eh IMMORAL!!! Naman, wala na talagang silbi ang ibang tao ngayon...binibigyan na nga sila ng paraan pero ayaw naman nila kasi daw bawal at immoral...o sige sila nalang yung sasagot sa ekonomiya ng bansa...


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 Post subject: Re: Reproductive Health vs. Moralists
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:28 pm 

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Reproductive health shouldn't be synonyous to abortion.


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 Post subject: Re: Reproductive Health vs. Moralists
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:14 pm 

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Ang sabi ng Moralists... reproductive health bill advocates are saying that population is the source of our problem... which is like saying... YOUR EXISTENCE is the cause of the growing problems of the country...

They think, addressing the growing population problem is addressing the wrong issue... Coz life should be seen as a gift..not as the root of all problems..

And although they make a very interesting point, reproductive health naman kasi is not anti-life. It merely aims to help improve the quality of life by giving all of us the option to plan our families...

Pro-choice is not necessarily anti life..


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 Post subject: Re: Reproductive Health vs. Moralists
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:22 pm 

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The best person to address over-population is the government but religion plays a big part in our culture.


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 Post subject: Re: Reproductive Health vs. Moralists
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:33 pm 

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may kasabihan nga na ang sobra ay masama kaya mag-condom or mag-pills or natural birth control.. Mas di kanaisnais kay Jesus Christ kung magkakaroon ka nga ng anak na ang dami dami at di mo naman kaya buhayin ng maayos... mas makasalanan yun sa kanya di ba?


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 Post subject: Reproductive Health vs. Moralists
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:03 pm 

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Ask any of the bishop or catholic priest the number of population of the Philippines. I guess they don't have any idea.

The question is, who would be the best person to answer the problem of over-population? For sure not the bishop, the priest, clergy men or the celibate who has no idea about raising a child or a family? :?:

Let's have those guys holds the statistics do the work.

If the church chooses to discourage the governments' current program on reproductive health, I will assume that the church will answer the economic needs of this country.


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